Malrex
So ... slow work day? Every day?
I hear you.
I got 3 points from your post.
1. You said 'play music in a shitty bar for people who don't care that much.'
People may just be showing up for the drinks. Music is a added bonus. But if no music was going on, they probably would still show up. They do care, perhaps about the drinks and environment.
I'll compare the forum to the bar. You close the forum, people are bummed and may go elsewhere--much like the bar. Big difference is that people are spending money at the bar for drinks which helps keep it open (but rarely at the forum). The 'service' at the forum, in my opinion is hosting a place where people can meet and discuss their hobby from anywhere in the world as well as a place to download a bunch of free material for everyone.
The magazine (or free submitted adventures) is like your music: If you don't do the magazine, then people don't really care (no offense to your music in this example) because they still have a place to show up (forum).
2. The drunken rant was a poor attempt to rally a charity from the contests for forum costs. And was probably not my place to do so, but...beer...reasons. But I am disheartened that more people don't help out with forum costs. But I guess I shouldn't care because no one else seems too? I mean, teachers pay for their own materials to be able to teach school children (in my country) so I guess this is the same sort of neat deal people get stuck in?
3. The magazine is not a big deal but does serve as an example---which parallels your example perfectly. It helps me practice layout (and lately editing) so I get some personal benefit from it, much like you getting joy from making music. I did know what I was getting into, this is my second time doing it. I don't have to pay to do the magazine except with time (and a few stock art pieces). I think the drunken rant stems more from me just recently sending 100+ pages of stuff to Steve to review and edit after I looked over everything and thinking about all he is doing for people behind the scenes. And then beer happened.
Anyways, I hear what you are saying. I tip musicians when at a bar (although I rarely go out anymore). But my expectations of humans continually drops lower everyday. One day, perhaps I'll be at the level where everyone else is at and these drunken rants will stop.
If it's heavy metal--direct me to your record.
I got 3 points from your post.
1. You said 'play music in a shitty bar for people who don't care that much.'
People may just be showing up for the drinks. Music is a added bonus. But if no music was going on, they probably would still show up. They do care, perhaps about the drinks and environment.
I'll compare the forum to the bar. You close the forum, people are bummed and may go elsewhere--much like the bar. Big difference is that people are spending money at the bar for drinks which helps keep it open (but rarely at the forum). The 'service' at the forum, in my opinion is hosting a place where people can meet and discuss their hobby from anywhere in the world as well as a place to download a bunch of free material for everyone.
The magazine (or free submitted adventures) is like your music: If you don't do the magazine, then people don't really care (no offense to your music in this example) because they still have a place to show up (forum).
2. The drunken rant was a poor attempt to rally a charity from the contests for forum costs. And was probably not my place to do so, but...beer...reasons. But I am disheartened that more people don't help out with forum costs. But I guess I shouldn't care because no one else seems too? I mean, teachers pay for their own materials to be able to teach school children (in my country) so I guess this is the same sort of neat deal people get stuck in?
3. The magazine is not a big deal but does serve as an example---which parallels your example perfectly. It helps me practice layout (and lately editing) so I get some personal benefit from it, much like you getting joy from making music. I did know what I was getting into, this is my second time doing it. I don't have to pay to do the magazine except with time (and a few stock art pieces). I think the drunken rant stems more from me just recently sending 100+ pages of stuff to Steve to review and edit after I looked over everything and thinking about all he is doing for people behind the scenes. And then beer happened.
Anyways, I hear what you are saying. I tip musicians when at a bar (although I rarely go out anymore). But my expectations of humans continually drops lower everyday. One day, perhaps I'll be at the level where everyone else is at and these drunken rants will stop.
If it's heavy metal--direct me to your record.