DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
I may not know much about the workings of the systems, but Roll20 and Fantasy Realms are both pretty dang user-friendly (for the players).
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I may not know much about the workings of the systems, but Roll20 and Fantasy Realms are both pretty dang user-friendly (for the players).
Beoric
8, 8, I forget what is for
I mean, the player just needs to click "connect to server", choose my game from the list, enter the password and press "ok", so
? And then read to me any error message before clicking through (they always garble the message and/or click through), or preferably send me a screenshot (which none of them can do). This assumes they are using the correct version of the program, which always requires a lengthy discussion to get them to figure out how, and then direct them to github for the new version, then figure out where on their computer they downloaded the file to.Which is why I pretty much always play in person, where I can set up their computers for them. Unfortunately, this doesn't help resolve the online issues, because if they are local they don't go through the firewall, so I can't test the setup.
The1True
8, 8, I forget what is for
Yeah. Dude. That sounds fucking crazy, man, sorry. You're going to lose your whole party of noobs if you're dropping both 4e and a bumpy VTT experience on them at the same time! 
The worst you're going to get out of Roll20 is choppy video chat, which just involves hitting the refresh button until you win.
Once again though, the free version of Roll20 can't touch all the awesome sounding bells and whistles you've got going on, and that's the UI you're used to. But yeah, no one wants to do tech fixes as part of their gaming experience. It's why I quit PC gaming a hundred years ago (fuck YOU Half Life 2, Orange Box!)! I guess maybe if you're up front about the potential difficulties and run a virtual Session 0 aimed solely at ironing out technical issues?
The worst you're going to get out of Roll20 is choppy video chat, which just involves hitting the refresh button until you win.Once again though, the free version of Roll20 can't touch all the awesome sounding bells and whistles you've got going on, and that's the UI you're used to. But yeah, no one wants to do tech fixes as part of their gaming experience. It's why I quit PC gaming a hundred years ago (fuck YOU Half Life 2, Orange Box!)! I guess maybe if you're up front about the potential difficulties and run a virtual Session 0 aimed solely at ironing out technical issues?
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
You should return. The days of editing config files and manual port-forwarding are dead; long live plug-and-play technology!
Beoric
8, 8, I forget what is for
The noobs are all local, it will be in person. I was talking about my old players.Yeah. Dude. That sounds fucking crazy, man, sorry. You're going to lose your whole party of noobs if you're dropping both 4e and a bumpy VTT experience on them at the same time!
Once again though, the free version of Roll20 can't touch all the awesome sounding bells and whistles you've got going on, and that's the UI you're used to. But yeah, no one wants to do tech fixes as part of their gaming experience. It's why I quit PC gaming a hundred years ago (fuck YOU Half Life 2, Orange Box!)! I guess maybe if you're up front about the potential difficulties and run a virtual Session 0 aimed solely at ironing out technical issues?
The1True
8, 8, I forget what is for
Meh. Now I've got no time for vidya games. Other than a lot of drunk/stoned MarioKart 8, the last thing I seriously played was Tears of the Kingdom, and that's because the wife took the kids to Germany for a couple of weeks!
Yeah, as I recall, I got a top of the line video card which I had configured for digital art and 3D modeling, and getting it to cooperate with new games was a complete nightmare. I'd rather just put up with my XBone's ninja 16G updates.
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
What even is this conversation? Should... should I just add random sentences to it?
"Flagrant misuse of a waterslide, I'd say. The dogs are naturally antsy about the fireworks outlet. A fine time was had by most."
"Flagrant misuse of a waterslide, I'd say. The dogs are naturally antsy about the fireworks outlet. A fine time was had by most."
The Heretic
Should be playing D&D instead
I recently restarted my WoW subscriptions and I am feeling very meh about the whole game. Part of it is the annoying changes to the GUI that makes hard to read ("Old man yells at clouds") but the bigger part of it is that it has all been done before. Get to the Earthen city. Yay. Go to neighboring town and do stupid fetch quests. Yay <snooze>. I left during Shadowlands. I think they should've ended it there. But money and all that.
The Heretic
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
Uh yeah, that's grind-based MMOs for you. Literally the same thing over and over. I was into a couple over the years, but see them for what they are these days: flashing lights, crazy noises, hollow XP. Basically the same approach to every slot machine, CandyCrush-clone, and toddler's toy ever made.
The1True
8, 8, I forget what is for
skibidi.
Malrex
So ... slow work day? Every day?
I hear you. I stumbled upon Turtle WoW, which is free WOW classic pretty much with some extra areas (for example, a few more caverns in Wailing Caverns and other dungeons), changes to skill trees, etc. I didn't like WoW much after the third update, the lich king or whatever so stopped playing, but I still like the classic. And its free, so I don't mind playing for an hour and than a week later logging in and messing around on a writing break.
Although online, I usually just enjoy playin solo.
I've tried to like newer games, but just too many explosions and lights everywhere and can't see what I'm doing (looking at you Guild Wars). So I still find myself going back to the old games every few years--Ultima Online, Dark Age of Camelot, etc. I sound like a total gamer, but I go through spurts of playing a few hours a week for a few months, then not playing anything at all for a few years. For the Horde! Anyways, sorry for going off topic.
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
I don't know if "going back to some old games every few years" is really anyone's definition of a "gamer".
Gamers tend to play games... like, constantly. Especially new and popular ones. My wife is a gamer; if she's not playing BG3 or Cities Skylines or XCOM or whatever, she's nose-deep into one of her thousands of "cozy games". I just dropped a grand on a brand new top-of-the-line SteamDeck for her, since she plays so much.
My ex-wife was also a gamer, but much more competitively mainstream (Call of Duty, Fortnite, etc.). She was on that XBox literally daily and had a million fellow gamer buddies who'd play CoD/FN with her basically non-stop.
And of course, I am a gamer. I play daily, hours at a time. I used to play Battlefield 3 & 4 at the competitive league level, which was thousands of hours of playtime (not to mention running team practices and strategy planning sessions and whatnot). *That's* what a gamer is. Games are their lives.
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
I guess tabletop games are also games. You could still consider yourself a "gamer" on that merit. You're a "gamer", just not a "gamer", you know?
Board games by that definition too. Anybody else here big into board games, or do y'all just do ttrpgs?
Board games by that definition too. Anybody else here big into board games, or do y'all just do ttrpgs?
Beoric
8, 8, I forget what is for
Mostly TTRPGs. I don't have a healthy relationship with video games, so I don't really play them any more
. I play some board games but not a lot.
The1True
8, 8, I forget what is for
I've been shopping online for a boardgame for a niece who really likes that sort of thing. Spent a couple of hours on Boardgame Geek noodling around last weekend. As a diehard table-flipper of the most unpleasant variety, I have to say, I REALLY don't understand boardgame people. Like, I went to one of Ottawa's boardgame bars last year and their boardgame concierge came by all enthusiastic about tokens, and bits and pieces, and board mechanics and I was like, no thanks, playing this here homebrew drinkin game!
DangerousPuhson
My my my, we just loooove to hear ourselves don't we?
You talking about The Loft/Level One? Love that place, but mostly for the retro videogames and decent beer selection. Since I started "collecting" board games (sitting at about 225), it has rendered board game cafes entirely redundant to me.
Suffice to say, I guess the answer is "no, 1True is not really into board games".
The Heretic
Should be playing D&D instead
Interesting! What didn't you like about Lich King? The setting or changes to game (or both)?
I played through all of them up to Dragon Isles. I'm an altoholic. I think it's the DM in me, needing to see how each class and/or race does in the game. Shadowlands was probably my favorite. It was a unique setting (the afterlife!) and it seemed to tie things up nicely until the 'your princess is in another castle' reveal with the final boss.
I usually play solo too.
Video games are like movies for me. I go back to the classics I liked in my childhood (ie that's how your supposed to finish Ultima II?!?).
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