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"The Establishment is broken!"

"How so?"

"It's tyrannical and propped up by greedy insiders, wealthy elites, and rampant cronyism!"

"So what's the solution?"

"Well, first thing we do is elect a billionaire oligarch tyrant and all his rich sycophantic cronies..."

*facepalm*
 
I mean one side *literally* led a coup-d'etat to overthrow the fairly-elected government recently, but whatever... vote for a twice-impeached felon, because reasons.

Very strong "the cold makes me uncomfortable so I'd better light myself on fire" vibes.
 
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You might think its 2024, but it's starting to feel an awful lot like 1776
 
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Actually, it sounds more like 1917 to me. We'll "liberate" you. If you are not for us you are against us. We have some nice gulags for you if you do not bend your will to our way. BUT ANYWAY.

It's unfortunate that Gary Gygax didn't fully explain how these were meant to be played. Growing up, me and everyone I knew played them as if they were meant to be direct assaults. But we were young then.


The Heretic
 
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You might think its 2024, but it's starting to feel an awful lot like 1776
Way to cool things down, squeen. Good work. Fuck you, you fucking idiot. This was the one space where I could talk about gaming and mostly avoid that bullshit. Yeah politics came up, but is was fucking gaming related. And you are spoiling that for me, you jackass. Maybe for yourself, too, if you alienate enough people.

@DangerousPuhson, you aren't helping. Please stop fighting with him and put him on ignore.

Squeen, I'm going to put you on ignore for a while, and wait to see if this site actually turns back to gaming discussions. DP too, if he insists on poking the bear.

Ugh, I took to long to write this. @The Heretic, and everyone else who is pissed at squeen, can you just put him on ignore for a while instead of continuing the argument?
 
Ugh, I took to long to write this. @The Heretic, and everyone else who is pissed at squeen, can you just put him on ignore for a while instead of continuing the argument?

Done.

I am sad that he is so close minded. I would've been interested in hearing what he had to say, but not on those terms. I'm open minded and I like to understand other people's points of view, but that would've been a waste of time. BUT ANYWAY.

Advice time! My group has finally taken notice of their main antagonists, yet they still intend to pursue the master of a minor wizard cult they had a brush with (see Dungeon Magazine #21 (?) In the Dread of Night, rewritten and purged of the ren faire and excess). I am having trouble coming up with an interesting (at least to me) "wizard's tower" for them to explore.

So. High level wizard. He's actually out of the lair, as he wants to end the world (Tharizdun cult) and has found leads to the Forgotten Temple of Tharizdun (which the PCs may follow if they are interested). The lair is in a ruined city run by orcs, the 'city of steam' because of natural saunas that used to attract the wealthy;. The lair will be underground. I'd like something like Sleepless(?), by the guy who did the Mud Sorcerer's Tomb. Interesting and dangerous wizardry to play with, other apprentices to interact with. I was thinking of reworking the Crypt of Istaris because I thought I remembered that being halfway decent, but I was wrong. Any ideas?

Oops, off to the bus. I can fill in more details to those that are interested.


The Heretic
 
@DangerousPuhson, you aren't helping. Please stop fighting with him and put him on ignore.

Squeen, I'm going to put you on ignore for a while, and wait to see if this site actually turns back to gaming discussions. DP too, if he insists on poking the bear.

I'm done poking. Taking a night to stew made me accept that you can't rationalize with some folk, so I won't try.

So... gaming discussions...

Heretic, your sauna Tharizdun idea sounds fine and functional. I'd go with that.
Well, I mean technically I would make something up from scratch, but you know what I mean... sounds fun.
 
Universally the left can dish it out, but they can't take it. If you don't want to see contrary politics, don't look behind the spoiler-tag or follow the link. Seemed fairly a benign compromise.

Obviously, I didn't start it but DP "wins" with y'all, solely because you've absorbed the same legacy media brainwashing as him. The truth is out there is you go looking, but it takes a shitload of time. Chaos and lies serve the goals of the elites' establishment.
 
Heretic, your sauna Tharizdun idea sounds fine and functional. I'd go with that.
Well, I mean technically I would make something up from scratch, but you know what I mean... sounds fun.

Oh you know, I would but I don't have as much time (nor inclination) to make something up from scratch. I should clarify, I put the temple of Tharizdun hundreds of miles away, so it's not in the city of steam itself. That's to give them a bit of a chance. They're level 5. The head wizard likes to use Stone to Flesh on his opponents. This gives them time to level up before they confront him, if they go that way. It also adds interest to the dungeon. There will be statues of his former victims. If they realize this and find a way to break the enchantment, they can get information and potential henchman. One of the statues will be a mutual enemy, which could be very interesting if the individual is freed.


The Heretic
 
I know I said I wouldn't, but I'm nipping this in the bud (you folk probably have him on ignore, so you probably didn't see the reaction post squeen made just now). Spoilers to keep it clean:

@squeen: First, you started this with your "On politics" spoiler tag thing. I initially posted in anger that the election results were BS, but that was where I ended it. Then you got all smarmy and "we'll liberate you next", and that's where shit got real.

Second, I can absolutely take whatever you can dish, but this is not the place for it. When your only response is "GFY", it means you've crumbled - in the parlance of your people "you've melted, snowflake!". I don't think you're being as persuasive with your arguments as you think you are.

Third, you assume that we aren't savvy to the goings on of the world simply because we don't agree with you - that we've been "brainwashed" or whatever. I propose an alternative explanation: we are savvy to the world, and that's exactly why we disagree with you.

A flat-earther thinks the earth is flat and the world is conspiring to hide that; how would you feel if a flat-earther came up to you and said "you're buying into the bullshit, here's some videos about the earth being flat, wake up sheeple"? That's how we feel right now with your videos and posts. You're not going to convince anyone that Trump is great with videos and news articles, anymore than a flat-earther can convince you about a flat-earth with videos and articles.

It's not about "the left can't take it" - it's more like "you sound like a lunatic right now, please stop"

Back to games:
@The Heretic so what's the issue? What are you unsure of/need help with/want feedback on? Linked adventures sound pretty straightforward to me, no?

Sidenote: love the petrified enemy bit; totally stealing that for my campaign, but with the party rival instead. I bet my players smash him to chunks.
 
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