I'm using the word "elite" as descriptive and not pejorative; it was not intended to be a political statement. Star Wars ep. 1-6 revolve around princesses, senators, emperors and space wizards, all with political and/or magical power. The protagonists in Rogue One are none of those things. They are ordinary people with ordinary resources, which they leverage with whatever intelligence, imagination and courage they can bring to bear.Sometimes @Beoric, I honestly wonder about you...
"Courage & sacrifice in the face of adversity" is basically synonymous with the term "hope", and you've just kind of insinuated that there was no hope present in a movie that's literally called "A New Hope", within a franchise with probably the most famous underdogs in all of cinema (the Rebels). So when you say "courage and sacrifice are largely absent from the franchise", it makes no sense - it's like saying "The themes of war and death are mostly absent from Saving Private Ryan". It's just... wrong.the themes of courage and sacrifice in the face of adversity were largely absent from the franchise to that point
Well, no, they are not synonyms. A person can have hope that something will happen without being able or willing to take any personal risk to make it so."Courage & sacrifice in the face of adversity" is basically synonymous with the term "hope", and you've just kind of insinuated that there was no hope present in a movie that's literally called "A New Hope", within a franchise with probably the most famous underdogs in all of cinema (the Rebels). So when you say "courage and sacrifice are largely absent from the franchise", it makes no sense - it's like saying "The themes of war and death are mostly absent from Saving Private Ryan". It's just... wrong.
DP, weren't the Bothans only relevant with the procurement of the second Death Star plans. They were first mentioned by Mon Mothma in RotJ.Yeah, "ret-conned" is a harsh term. Literally one sentence from the original was invalidated ("many Bothans died"); the rest of the canon is unchallenged by RO. To label RO as a "shit movie" because many Bothans *didn't* die... I mean, that just feels shortsighted. It's not a flawless franchise; we all know this.
This is interesting to me because it almost exactly matches the reaction a friend of mine had to Rogue One. He thought the characterization was poor and there was no character growth. He was the first to notice that tFA was a rehash of ANH, but he liked LJ quite a bit.I honestly can't even remember a single character from that movie now. Porridge characters. Porridge plot. Porridge acting.
Yeah you're right. There are so many Star Wars superweapon briefings that I get them mixed up. So the Bothan hole isn't even an issue for Rogue One's continuity.DP, weren't the Bothans only relevant with the procurement of the second Death Star plans. They were first mentioned by Mon Mothma in RotJ.
Nah. It's a porn term - who doesn't like porn?(DP...DP...that's an unfortunate set of initials, isn't it?)
Yeah, what's wrong with "DP"(DP...DP...that's an unfortunate set of initials, isn't it?)
Good point. The most effective reviews are able to instill the experience of the thing being reviewed into the viewer/reader, and the most effective way to instill an experience is to relate it to something they already know. Isle and Keep are high-profile adventures that have been around a long time; the odds are favorable that the viewer/reader has some experience with it (in some capacity, even just having heard of it), so it makes sense that they would become the defacto benchmark for a large number of reviewers.To me, the benefit of a reviewer referring to the classics is that it's a touchstone. Like, based on the reviewer's opinions of these commonly experienced titles, I can judge to what degree his tastes parallel mine.
One thing I'm coming to grips with as I age is that people are a multi-vectored thing, with axis into the infinite. One person liking something slightly related to my own preferences is no longer as potent an indicator of being on a good wavelength/sympatico/what-have-you with someone as it once was. With how fragmented media is these days, it's kinda hard to align on as many vectors anymore.If she says that if I liked X1, I might like this; tell me more.
If it says that S1 has been tremendously overhyped, but this latest gauntlet may scratch that itch for a party-killer; much respect.
So true! Man, can a conversations go south fast these days due to the faulty presumption that you are gelling with a person who very much is NOT on your wavelength.One person liking something slightly related to my own preferences is no longer as potent an indicator of being on a good wavelength/sympatico/what-have-you with someone as it once was. With how fragmented media is these days, it's kinda hard to align on as many vectors anymore.
omg the Arena episode was the BEST! And the Gord cameo in S2 E4: SQUEEEEEE! I mean, they didn't say it was him, TM and all that, but we all knew!or The Real Housewives of Greyhawk
<uncontrollable eye twitch> Yes, let's talk about ludicrous superweapons, like Kevin J Anderson's Suncrusher in the Jedi Academy trilogy. Fun fact, that trilogy is probably the biggest reason why I am loathe to watch Rogue One. Unless I'm remembering incorrectly (it HAS almost been thirty years since I read it) one of the plot points was about how the Death Star's flaw was purposefully engineered into the final product.Yeah you're right. There are so many Star Wars superweapon briefings that I get them mixed up. So the Bothan hole isn't even an issue for Rogue One's continuity.
I went through a similar realization back in the late nineties. "I like Joy Division, so depressing alternative music is where it's at." "No, this didn't quite work, well maybe it has to be Goth?" "Ugh, no, this "Goth" is horrendous." "Oh I get it, I should be looking for early 80's post-punk, or post-punk inspired bands. Sweet!"One thing I'm coming to grips with as I age is that people are a multi-vectored thing, with axis into the infinite. One person liking something slightly related to my own preferences is no longer as potent an indicator of being on a good wavelength/sympatico/what-have-you with someone as it once was. With how fragmented media is these days, it's kinda hard to align on as many vectors anymore.
Bryce's reviews are top notch, with only three shortcomings/areas for improvement that I can think of:The good thing about Bryce is that he is very descriptive in his reviews. Even if you can't trust his conclusion, you are given enough information to make your own decision.
Wait, this is really a thing? Where do I find it?omg the Arena episode was the BEST! And the Gord cameo in S2 E4: SQUEEEEEE! I mean, they didn't say it was him, TM and all that, but we all knew!or The Real Housewives of Greyhawk?
I suspect it's a point of pride now. It is troubling when he goes after a writer for poor editing, however...Bryce just needs to acknowledge that the squiggly red lines under his words actually means something.
Super easy: Done with that & moving on.That said, my narcissism can't conceive of how a person could not reread his own writing at least once before hitting post...